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  The reporting of field service time

  by lepermessiah in

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  were any of you really bothered/still bothered by the practice of field service reporting?.

  there was an old post on here that got me thinking how the practice got started.. instead of simply being a tool to monitor the progress of the faith, or to see if the work was done "throughout the earth", it appears to me that it was just a tool used to keep the presses rolling and to see how much literature to produce - along with controlling the rank and file.

  the average jw gives it no thought, its just another "blessing" from the organization when you hear the monthly reports, etc.. the organization is so statistics-driven that they make jesus out to be a ceo with people who need to meet their sales quotas.i'm sure he really wouldnt care if peter and andrew got 20 hours one month and john got 25. wait, maybe thats why john was "beloved" .

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  one thing that always really bothered me in my most sincere days, was the way some would start counting time when they walked up to the first door. so in a car group of 4, two people would start counting at the first return visit and the other two ten minutes later at the next return visit, and i never agreed how 2 people get to have an extra ten or fifteen minutes just because their RV happens to be first on the path they're going, while in reality all 4 gave up the same portion of their day to be there.

  i think most adopted the practice of starting counting time upon leaving the service group.

  after a while i started counting from the moment i started getting dressed for service, reasoning that from that moment on my day became different because of going in service, so in a way, thats when i started "dedicating time" out of my day to the doing of "the work".

  now i just randomly come up with an ok-ish sounding number every month.
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  canada's "zone visit"

  by agent zero in

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  ...the whole of canada hooked up by phone.. no big announcement that it was all a scam, no cancellation of the field service arrangement, just a praise of the new printing press and some regular drab.

  what a waste of my saturday evening..

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  agent zero

  that's really odd, here it was held at the assembly hall, and it was broadcast over the phone line direct from georgetown bethel. among the places they mentioned it was being broadcast were edmonton, calgary, saskatoon..
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  canada's "zone visit"

  by agent zero in

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  ...the whole of canada hooked up by phone.. no big announcement that it was all a scam, no cancellation of the field service arrangement, just a praise of the new printing press and some regular drab.

  what a waste of my saturday evening..

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  agent zero

  THIS NEVER HAPPENED IN CANADA LAST NIGHT!

  If you attended an event like this and were told it was all across Canada you were lied to it did not happen in our circuit.

  hoser, where is your circuit? i guess it's possible that not ALL circuits were included, but they kept repeating that those listening were ranging from vancouver island to newfoundland. they specifically mentioned alot of cities by name, and i can't think of any significantly sized ones that weren't included.
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  canada's "zone visit"

  by agent zero in

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  ...the whole of canada hooked up by phone.. no big announcement that it was all a scam, no cancellation of the field service arrangement, just a praise of the new printing press and some regular drab.

  what a waste of my saturday evening..

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  agent zero

  hey, ok so to everyone not in canada, what i'm talking about is that last night all the english congregations across the whole of canada were congregated in assembly halls, multi-KH complexes, and rented facilities for a "zone visit" (thats what they called it, i never heard of it before either) supposedly for a big announcement from bethel that they could then tell everyone from coast to coast at the same time.

  the things i mentioned in my opening comment about announcing its false or whatever, i obviously didn't truely expect, but those are the kind of things i would be much more excited about.. :P hehe

  it was mostly about the new printing press and how all of the north american and carribean litterature will now be printed at the canada branch and that much help will be needed and so on and so forth.

  by the way, it was complete with opening, middle, and closing song!
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  canada's "zone visit"

  by agent zero in

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  ...the whole of canada hooked up by phone.. no big announcement that it was all a scam, no cancellation of the field service arrangement, just a praise of the new printing press and some regular drab.

  what a waste of my saturday evening..

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  agent zero

  ...the whole of canada hooked up by phone.. no big announcement that it was all a scam, no cancellation of the field service arrangement, just a praise of the new printing press and some regular drab. what a waste of my saturday evening.
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  Did you do a fake prayer before eating lunch at the assembly, etc????

  by asilentone in

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  i did it many times.

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  yeah. at restaurants i wouldnt want other people to notice it, so i'd just hold the fork and look at the plate in a way that to fellow witnesses at my table it looked like i was praying but to potential onlookers from other tables it'd look like i was just staring at my food, or at least thats what i hoped it looked like.
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  The worldwide unity of Jehovah's Witness

  by paul from cleveland in

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  everything i read on this website and elsewhere indicates that the witness are extremely united in doctrine and practices worldwide.

  when i'm reading comments here, i have no idea whether the person is posting from the us or some other part of the world (unless they say so).

  everyone's experience seems to be the same wherever they live.

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  Also, others didn't seem to understand that prostitution is fornication. They figure that if she was willing and he paid, it was just business

  Billy.. Really?!? where was that, thats too crazy hahaha
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  The worldwide unity of Jehovah's Witness

  by paul from cleveland in

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  everything i read on this website and elsewhere indicates that the witness are extremely united in doctrine and practices worldwide.

  when i'm reading comments here, i have no idea whether the person is posting from the us or some other part of the world (unless they say so).

  everyone's experience seems to be the same wherever they live.

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  agent zero

  I've heard from fellow JWs that in Hawaii, JW men don't wear suits and ties out in service because nobody in Hawaii does

  thats also the case in northern canada in native territories
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  The worldwide unity of Jehovah's Witness

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
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  everything i read on this website and elsewhere indicates that the witness are extremely united in doctrine and practices worldwide.

  when i'm reading comments here, i have no idea whether the person is posting from the us or some other part of the world (unless they say so).

  everyone's experience seems to be the same wherever they live.

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  agent zero

  policy-wise i think there's very little varience, but there are some regional variations in attitude. i found that in central american spanish cultures there seems to be more of an emotional involvement and expressions like "how are you? ..i'm good, thanks to jehovah" or "will i see you later? ..yeah i'll see you later, if god permits" are used left right and center, as contrasted with the more rule-based north americans that avoid everythng in case it might "stumble" someone in the cong
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  Giving to Charities

  by Kristina1972 in

  1. watchtower
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  i notice the jw's don't really donate to charities.

  when i donated to the earthquake in haiti, my husband didn't really say anything about it.

  silence usually means he doesn't agree with something because of his religious beliefs.

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  agent zero

  not a problem with haiti in particular, also not technically a problem at all, just that many relief efforts and organizations have ties to other churches or similar things. if it has the slightest connection to anything at all religious, it is "wrong" to "support" it.

  also, if a witness wants to send monetary aid to a disaster area, doing so through the watchtower society is the only way it reflects well on him, as contributing to any other outfit would be "relying on worldly organizations, while jehovah already has one in place that will take care of the brothers"

  i think thats how its seen